We've been shown the sloping graphs of rising heat and seas by the IPCC. But scientists studying deep time find otherwise. The climate tends to shift relatively rapidly, as much as 4 degrees C in a decade or less. Dr. Alder Stone Fuller in a two-part interview with Alex Smith of Radio Ecoshock. He teaches Gaia 101 and encourages "adaptability" and "shock-proofing" vital systems like water and food, to be ready for big climate change. With readings by dianne Dumanoski, author of "The End of the Long Summer". From Radio Ecoshock show 111005 Part 1 24 min, Part 2 17 minutes.